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Green Party “Terrorists”

Writing about his no-fly nightmare in the Fairfield County Weekly, art dealer Doug Stuber, who had run Ralph Nader’s Green Party presidential campaign in North Carolina in 2000, was pulled out of a boarding line and grounded. He was about to make an important trip to Prague to gather artists for Henry James Art in Raleigh, N.C., when he was told (with ticket in hand) that he was not allowed to fly out that day.

Asking “why not?” he was told at Raleigh-Durham airport that because of the sniper attacks, no Greens were allowed to fly overseas on that day. The next morning he returned, and instead of paying $670 round trip, was forced into a $2,600 “same day” air fare. But it’s what happened to Stuber during the next 24 hours that is even more disturbing.

Officer Stanley took Stuber into a room and questioned him for an hour. Around noon, Stanley had introduced him to two Secret Service agents. The agents took full eye-open pictures of Stuber with a digital camera. Then they asked him details about his family, where he lived, who he ever knew, what the Greens are up to, and other questions.

At one point during his interrogation, Stuber asked if they really believed the Greens were equal to al Qaeda. Then they showed him a Justice Department document that actually shows the Greens as likely terrorists � just as likely as al Qaeda members. Stuber was released just before 1 PM, so he still had time to catch the later flight.

Stuber said he could only conclude that the Greens, whose values include nonviolence, social justice, etc., are now labeled terrorists by the Ashcroft-led Justice Department.

So the Flight Simulator stuff is just a warmup?

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  1. January 12, 2004 at 2:54 am

    The Greens do support terrorism. How many ALF/ELF members do you suppose are going to vote for a Repub/Dem candidate? Or maybe those dumb as dirt terrorizers of Huntindon Labs employees.

    The Greens form of “social justice” equates to a total shut down of the American economy and is definitely NOT non-violent.

    If they ever got into power, they would enforce their way of life at the point of a gun. Albeit a pretty gun with a fiberglass stock (not wood) painted puce with muave accents and/or little daisies painted on it.

  2. Steve
    January 12, 2004 at 3:26 am

    you make me laugh (analog kid that is).

    Where has anyone suggested a shutdown of the American economy ?


  3. January 12, 2004 at 8:49 am

    Analog kid, run don’t walk to your psychoanalyst! Talk about a classic case of projection.

  4. January 12, 2004 at 1:16 pm

    it’s frightening that interacting with the secret service and the FBI are becoming as common as getting pulled over by the police.

  5. January 12, 2004 at 1:38 pm

    Well Steve, Let’s start with the fact that they would beg to sign Kyoto. There’s step 1. Step two would be the closing of farms that produce animal products (beef, milk, pork, chicken, etc) essentially restricting American’s ability to find food and causing the ‘non-animal product’ market to charge escalated prices for their products. Step 3 would be to kick us all out of out fossil fuel vehicles and the shutting down the major automakers.

    Should I go on?

    And Mr. Taylor, you folks are the ones who are projecting. After seeing what the left would do to cause people to hate a sitting president, I can say that most everything you folks stick on GWB is nothing but your fantasies of what you would do if you had the power.

    The anger towards Clinton was not hate, it was disgust. People on the right were never measured by how much they hated Clinton. Whereas, the people on the left actually have parties called “Hate Bush”. Hell, the major reason Dean is the front-runner now is because he says that he hates Bush more than any of the other candidates.

    And Jesse, you are such a drama queen. When was the last time the FBI stopped by your place?

    If you want, since I’m a charter member of the “Vast Right Wing Conspiracy”, I can put you on the list for a visit?

    Why, I should put myself on for a visit, since I haven’t gotten a talking to by them since the aftermath of the Oklahoma City Bombing.

    Yes children, thats right! Since I was a member of a gun club in Washignton State, I got a visit by the FBI, along with all of the other members.

    I’d never been to Oklahoma or McVeigh’s home state. Nor did I at any time dress up in camo on the weekends and play ‘Militia’. But since I owned firearms and belonged to a club that focused on firearms, I was a suspect.

    If you all want to bitch and moan about a few people getting a talking to by a government police agency, you might first want to stop cheering on those agencies when they talk to people you don’t like

    Remember the ‘When they came for…’ story?

    Come talk to me when they start shooting people in stadiums for being the member of the ‘wrong’ ideology.

    Or, like Cuba, start saying who can and cannot access the internet for “security reasons”.

    Until then, quit being sorry losers.

  6. January 12, 2004 at 5:55 pm

    Analog Kid:

    Hate is defined as:

    To feel dislike or distaste for.

    Disgusted is defined as:

    To offend the taste; repel.

    Looks like we feel one in the same about opposite leaders. Don’t try to mince words when you talk to people who use a dictionary.

  7. January 12, 2004 at 6:57 pm

    Hey Jessie,

    Anal is defined as:
    Anyone who hangs out on blogs and lists dictionary definitions to try to blur the lines of reality.

    Life does not go “Love, Like, Hate”. There are many grades of relationships.

    My brother. He’s an ass. He borrows money and does not pay people back. He cannot hold a job (and he’s a registered Democrat). But I do not hate him.

    My boss’ boss. He’s clueless. He is only employed because of his dad (and he’s a republican). I don’t like the guy, but I don’t hate him.

    Even someone as dim as yourself knows of people that they do not like, but do not hate.

    Get it? Got it? Good.

    There is a difference. If you don’t see it, get out of college and head on back to primary school, for you are not yet ready for the real world.

  8. Steve
    January 12, 2004 at 11:50 pm

    analog kid,
    the Greens can never close down the food industry and make people to walk to work…..well after they’ve closed down all the factories, then you wouldn’t have to work anywhere I guess.

    You have a democracy. The majority can vote people in, and the majority can vote people out.

    And if you look at both Australia and America, the people taking away liberties and freedom are the right wingers.

    We ended up with gun registration and unanounced doorknocks at 9PM at night, as the result of our right wing lords and masters (oops, I meant elected representatives).

  9. January 13, 2004 at 1:41 pm

    Oh Stevie, Stevie, Stevie.

    You don’t know how wrong you are.

    Of course the Greens could shut down the food industry. Hell, they’ve tried to do it through the courts, just think what would happen if they also got executive/legislative power as well. Stop drooling greens!

    So, you’re in Oz. It shows. If you were an American (who actually listened in civics class) you would know that we are a Representative Republic and not a democracy.

    Mob rule is a scary thing. As you have found out in your home country. When the lefty media gets the people all fired up over the gun issue, exactly what do you expect the leaders of a democracy to do, ignore the masses?

    Try asking the people the people in Britain if the BBC had anything to do with the government legislating away their gun rights.

    And again, I can tell you are not in the US. If you were you would know that it is the enviro-nazis/politically correct crowd who are taking away property rights, privacy rights, freedom of movement right, etc, etc.

    Of course now everyone will jump on me with the usual “The Partiot Act is putting people in American gulags! And Bush signed it!” Yawn.

    I have repeatedly said that those who are making such a big deal about ‘The Patriot Act’ are truly children. If you actually think that the government didn’t have any of those powers before the PA passed, you need to go back into your little whole and lay in the fetal position and wait for you nanny state legislator to come and tell you it is all better now.

  10. January 14, 2004 at 11:34 am

    I’ll be very interested to hear what you have to say when Bush gets trounced this November. See you then!

  11. January 18, 2004 at 11:04 am

    The analog kid is unreadable. I swear I tried. There’s just no point to wading through thigh high bat guano. He’ll greet whatever happens in November in with equal measures of paranoia and triumphalism.

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