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AP: Iraqis Say Saddam Not Leading Attacks

SAMARA, Iraq – A former Iraqi general who claims to be part of the insurgency against U.S. troops says the guerrilla war around this “Sunni Triangle” city is being waged by small groups fighting on their own without direction from Saddam Hussein (news – web sites) or others.

He and two other Samara men, who said they are in separate guerrilla units, insisted in interviews with The Associated Press that their fight isn’t aimed at returning Saddam to power. They said it’s about ending the U.S.-led occupation and restoring Iraqi rule.

General rebuts report of foreign guerrillas, via Cursor (the link is a bit screwy, at least on Firebird)

BAGHDAD:The commanding general of the U.S. Army division that patrols much of Iraq’s eastern borders with Syria and Jordan said Tuesday that his men had encountered almost no foreigners trying to sneak into the country to carry out attacks against American and allied forces.

“I want to underscore that most of the attacks on our forces are by former regime loyalists and other Iraqis, not foreign forces,” said Major General Charles Swannack Jr., commander of the 82nd Airborne Division.

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During a news briefing Tuesday evening, Swannack said his men had captured 13 foreign guerrillas and killed seven more in recent months. Ten days ago, Colonel David Teeples, who is part of Swannack’s command, said the number of foreigners captured or killed was just a fraction of the 500 to 600 people captured “who were involved in attacks on coalition forces.”

More Bush administration arguments cracking. Damn, that Robert Fisk is on top of things. He’s been saying this for a while now. Damned lefties and their truthful reporting.

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  1. November 21, 2003 at 6:21 pm

    The only thing that Fisk is on top of is his own head.

    Read the report. There is a clue in it that you seem to have missed. His division patrols the EASTERN border. The eastern border would be IRAN.

    Who was Iraq at war with for almost a decade? Why would Iranians come to Iraq to fight to reinstall Hussein?

    Perhaps thee should go find a report about the northern and western border patrols. You will find that they are catching hundreds of Syrians, Saudis, and even ‘palestinians’ too cowardly to blow up a bus full of schoolchildren.

    Or do I have to do your research for you?

  2. November 21, 2003 at 7:33 pm

    Looking at the report, it says from Syria and Jordan. Maybe that’s a mistake, but the fact that his remarks are backed up by the second General in the story, saying only 20 have been caught since May from the North (including Syria), leads me to believe that they probaby do mean the Syrian and Jordanian borders. Of course, then there’s the part that says only a fraction of the ones they’ve caught are foreign.

    And even if the Washington estimates of 3000 are correct, recent reports put the insurgency at 50,000. Hardly the main problem.

  3. Sole4Raziel
    November 21, 2003 at 7:45 pm

    Iranians wouldn’t be coming to reinstall Saddam, they’d be coming to kill Americans in hopes of us leaving and then getting their piece of the pie.

  4. November 22, 2003 at 3:04 am

    Mr. Jeff, I would take it more that the reporter doesn’t have his facts straight. His compass seems to be a bit off and I think that maybe his numbers are as well.

    He is talking to a the commander of the division that patrols the eastern border. He would not know (and also probably not be able to report) of anything going on on the north or western side of the country.

    Most reports still say that the SpecFor guys are still the only ones in the deep north (Turkey/eastern edge of Syria) and they aren’t really known for leaving survivors. Armed border crossers in that area are probably getting a serious case of ‘The Gone Missings’. Good riddance.

    And Sole, while I can see your argument as for why Iranians might be coming over, I would think that the last thing those folks need is one of our Stryker Brigades looking in their direction. They wouldn’t last even as long as the Iraqi army did.

    It would be nice to help those Iranian students out though. Oh well, future plans.

  5. November 22, 2003 at 1:36 pm

    Maybe you missed what I meant, I’m saying that maybe it was a mistake that the reporter said “eastern,” and Syria and Jordan were correct. This article seems to confirm that:

    “Now it’s no holds barred. We use whatever weapons that are necessary to take the fight to the enemy,” said Major General Charles Swannack, whose 82nd Airborne Division patrols Al-Anbar province west of the capital, another hotbed of anti-US insurgency.

    Al-Anbar is the province bordering Syria and Jordan. So he would know about insurgents coming from there. The eastern part in the story is the incorrect part.

    And you’re right about coming from the north, I can’t see anyone getting in from Turkey. Going through Kurdistan, even if you aren’t a Turk (which would then get you killed), wouldn’t be pleasant, the Kurds are fairly friendly to us.

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